History Made! The first VRC meeting was a success - LOG(Vamp Research Committee)Jan 13 06 |
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.. earlier chit chat edited out for relevancy....
ladycgc: did everyone see the Agenda I posted today? vampire_resource_exchange: yep moonchild1153: have it in front of me Merticus X: *nods* goddess32068: yes lady_slinky: as do I. goddess32068: well i suggest posting each item as we go goddess32068: that way its logged ladycgc: I agree. ladycgc: First I want to thank all of you for your interest! goddess32068: yw ladycgc: I'm actually thrilled that the idea is taking off so well vampire_resource_exchange: I think it's a great idea goddess32068: i think so too ladycgc: Well to start off with... since everyone has read the Agenda... First.. was there any disagreement with my Purpose for the group? lady_slinky: ladycgc: My goals for the VRC: a place to start bettering communications between communities a means to put groups doing like research together a way to promote better research among the communities l adycgc: (remembers to copy it so it logs, lol) Merticus X: No objections here. goddess32068: good ideas vampire_resource_exchange: sounds great to me lady_slinky: I think its vague ladycgc: I realize this group could lead to all kinds of complicated problems and I'd like to try and keep it simple, in both purpose and in how we run it goddess32068: sometimes vague is good lol ladycgc: It has the potential to grow, that is the reason its somewhat vague ladycgc: we have an opportunity to shape this whatever way we want.. and so I am counting on seeing how it evolves and finding out where everyone sees it going ladycgc: I think what may be more important than what the group is.. is what its NOT ladycgc: What this group is NOT: This is NOT a rule making or governing body, as such we have no right to dictate rules or behaviours to member communities This is NOT a clique... any group / community may have representation This group has no right to dictate rules or behaviour outside of our meetings. This is NOT a debate group. Its for sharing info, research, arranging joint projects, and mutual cooperation. moonchild1153: I would like to say that this is something that I have waited a very long time to see . . . ladycgc: a non political council? ladycgc: **laughs.. goddess32068: lol ladycgc: I think it will be a first, actually lady_slinky: possibly goddess32068: my bachelors degree is in political science **chuckles** lady_slinky: nothing is without its own politics. Tannaidhe has joined the conference. moonchild1153: true ladycgc: I tried to word what the group is NOT so that it will not be mistaken or misconstrued into a political animal goddess32068: good idea ladycgc: I think to succeed this group has got to remain a non rule making, non partisan council lady_slinky: Suceed at what exactly? ladycgc: for sharing info and research rather than trying to force any group to our way of thinking ladycgc: Every group and community already has its own rules and Ideas moonchild1153: we would be in essence a clearing house for information? lady_slinky: How will we differ from crimson tongue? Tannaidhe: A clearing house and a highway goddess32068: may i say something ladycgc: I'd like this council to be a way for us all to share what out groups are doing, and what research we are involved in as well as provide a way for groups doing similar research to connect goddess32068: i have a slight suggestion lady_slinky: I think that is an excellent goal. ladycgc: fire away Mary, no need to stand on ceremony, lol Tannaidhe: And also if we can provide an up-front, 'non-partisan', broad-spectrum 'gateway' to the communities, "real" researchers might be more interested in doing some "real" research. ladycgc: I"m open to all suggestions as this council will benefit us all a nd will take all of us to work goddess32068: In the VN, COD, and HRL I have basically one rule --respect--I ask that all people show respect for each other regardless of paths or ideas or beliefs goddess32068: it works well lady_slinky: It seems there are a lot of individual groups cropping up with the same goal. What I do not see is any of those groups working together or with the resources that already exist. ladycgc: I agree Tanna... the ability to poll and sample large numbers of vampyres is attractive to all of us who do vamp research ladycgc: mary I dont' think this council will work if we can't show that very kind of respect for each others ideas goddess32068: and allows the ability to have ppl from a variety of paths working together ladycgc: the very fact we are entertaining the idea of having reps from a number of boards and groups who's basic philosophies do NOT jive, will require us to show respect Merticus X: Institutional researchers will emerge when the foundation or rather the structure for contacting and gathering data from this community is plausible. goddess32068: I agree mert goddess32068: may i call u mert? Merticus X: Too much bias against us in the "educational" fields. ladycgc: and in the meantime, Merticus, Our communities will benefit from the better communications about what we are all researching Merticus X: Everyone does - it's ok Tannaidhe: Unfortunately, that very respecy and non-partisanship will inevitably lead to disagreements like the one that happened about the 'theories' goddess32068: ok ty goddess32068: just call me Vampy or Rev Merticus X: Will do ladycgc: I dont' see any need for theories or anything else to be argued at council meetings, since I am hoping the meetings will simply act as an opportunity for each rep to provide a synopsis of what is going on in their groups and announce what they will be posting as files to the group for everyone to see lady_slinky: I agree moonchild1153: there is your potential mission statement right there CG ladycgc: That research will then be available on the site Tannaidhe: Oh, I completely agree. Meetings are a different subject than I was talking about ladycgc: if they want to argue it, they can do so in their own groups **evil grin lady_slinky: How will the research be orgnanised? Tannaidhe: But you must realize that anyone looking to do serious research won't be seeing the meetings... they'll be seeing the mailing list ladycgc: Each group already does its own research.. we'll simply be offering them a way to tell everyone else what they are doing and see who else is doing the same thing.. We' ladycgc: ll have to figure out how to organize it on the site Merticus X: One question.. this idea of the VRC (if I may call it that) is to join groups conducting research together and compliment their efforts or to conduct the research themselves - ie: a body of researchers or a body set up to connect researchers? ladycgc: a folder for meetings logs... and several sorted folders for different types of research Merticus X: Ok I think you just answered most of what I wrote CG. ty ladycgc: oh and a folder by month of activities and a synpsis of what each group is doing ladycgc: as provided by the reps lady_slinky: do we have use of the yahoo calander? ladycgc: for example... I do research on S&M... I write up a synopsis for group meetings of what is new at S&M, what research we are currently doing.. and maybe I need other groups who are willing to post a poll for me on their groups, that I will need the results from, in return I'll do the same for other groups ladycgc: as far as I know, yes, slinky goddess32068: yes it will work goddess32068: the calendar that is lady_slinky: Thats a good place fore events then goddess32068: im no computer genius but i do all this stuff with my groups ladycgc: and if other groups are doing the same thing I am, I might be willign to work WITH them rather than both doing the same thing on a smaller scale goddess32068: so I can help you guys with the calendar if needed ladycgc: exellent, Thank you Vampy. goddess32068: yw lady_slinky: Now I know I am not seeing all the posts ladycgc: I"ll need help. so I'll be modding people who are willing to volenteer to help run this egroup and help keep it tidy as the council aquires info that needs to be filed, etc lady_slinky: I am going to go out and try to come back in goddess32068: add me slinky goddess32068: and ill invite lady_slinky has left the conference. lady_slinky has joined the conference. ladycgc: I invited her back goddess32068: ok lady_slinky: ok hopefully I fixed the problem ladycgc: LOL lady_slinky: everyone say hi. moonchild1153: hI ladycgc: HI! Tannaidhe: Hi!!! vampire_resource_exchange: hello Merticus X: Hello goddess32068: hi ladycgc: gee we're a friendly bunch! Tannaidhe: lol lady_slinky: so far I have Marlene, CGC and Merticus goddess32068: uh oh vampire_resource_exchange: hmmmm goddess32068: not me ladycgc: AVA hasnt' responded Tannaidhe: You missed a few then House AVA: I'm here - remote ladycgc: yay! ladycgc: lol lady_slinky: k I just hate that onesides convo thing ladycgc: OK.. ladycgc: What needs to be decided at tonights meeting?: *A format for future meetings ladycgc: I'm open to suggestions on this one ladycgc: we meet we do roll call.. then what? Merticus X: I guess IRC is out of the question as far as platforms? ladycgc: I can do IRC... Tannaidhe: A quick summary of important things that have happened since the last meeting? ladycgc: but I know some others might have issues with it... moonchild1153: present any new projects goddess32068: well may i goddess32068: i usually do old business lady_slinky: First we should probably adress old business goddess32068: new business goddess32068: and discussion lady_slinky: things not finished from the last meeting or followups Merticus X: Anyone going to pull out highlights in the log and present point of interest notes for meetings? ladycgc: Ok.. so old business, then new, such as new rep applications etc lady_slinky: that brings us to the question of council positions ladycgc: lets talk format THEN positions... ladycgc: since we're already on format, lol Merticus X: I believe I missed the message on yahoo on the applications section.. less that was automatic. ladycgc: we discussed it early one.. we do have an invitation to give to groups who are interested or whom we think might be interested lady_slinky: I would say old business then new member welcome. ladycgc: OK.. then new business, then each rep can discuss what thier group is up to and what research they are doing if any lady_slinky: after new member welcome comes new research submissions and events or a summary from each rep. ladycgc: Each rep can be responisble for posting their group update to the egroup file goddess32068: Call to order - Roll call, Welcomes,Old Bus, New Bus, Closing discussion, adjourn ladycgc: the mods can just make sure its posted in the correct place, saves work lady_slinky: I think that the actual information should be subbmitted via file or email though. ladycgc: each rep should still give a group update lady_slinky: we could have a fill the blank form. ladycgc: at the council meeting ladycgc: that could work ladycgc: its a good start, which is what we need ladycgc: I think it will evolve as we need it to ladycgc: postions on the council lady_slinky: What positions are needed? ladycgc: I think the chair should be elected and shoudl change frequently ladycgc: We will need a secretary! lady_slinky: indeed ladycgc: or two lady_slinky: Council techy moonchild1153: a backup incase goddess32068: How about rotating Chair every three months lady_slinky: Research monkey ladycgc: one to keep track of reps and one to keep the site tidy and they will have to work together a bit Tannaidhe: Three months may be a bit fast, especially at first lady_slinky: what would the chair be responsible for? Merticus X: You'll need a spokesperson to go between the groups and solicit support or rather involvement. goddess32068: rotating verses voting one in cuts out the politics ladycgc: first we need to decide how often the council will meet! ladycgc: Mert that is the chairs job lady_slinky: Good idea goddess Merticus X: Big job for a single chair. ladycgc: very good idea ladycgc: true its a big job, but not that big ladycgc: mostly PR lady_slinky: I think the chair should be in charge of the meeting and not much more. ladycgc: if chair is in charge of meeting only, who does PR? ladycgc: or do we all do it? lady_slinky: A leasion (however that is spelled) is the one who does inter community relations goddess32068: all should ladycgc: which is acceptable, as far as I am concerned Merticus X: I suggest we all do it. ladycgc: liason? lady_slinky: yes moonchild1153: but we need to figure out who does what where lady_slinky: that looks right goddess32068: in each of our groups we are in that allows that advertising moonchild1153: would do no good to be stepping on each others toes goddess32068: upload links moonchild1153: soliciting the same groups goddess32068: do banner exchange Tannaidhe: I think, for rotating the chair, the secretary in charge of reps should keep track of each group's involvement... and whoever has gone the longest since holding the chair position should receive it goddess32068: link exchange ladycgc: I wasn't thinking of meeting every month ladycgc: I'll toss that out , lol goddess32068: the secretary keeps minutes and such lady_slinky: I think every month is too much goddess32068: ? lady_slinky: I would suggest every 3 at most Merticus X: What frequency were you considering? ladycgc: every month is a lot, especially since we all have other commitments and our groups to manage ladycgc: why not every two months? goddess32068: Well alot can happen in three mnths lady_slinky: most community leaders are already really bogged down with responsibilities ladycgc: two months is not too often and we'll all have things to talk about, lol goddess32068: true Merticus X: I'm fine with bi-monthly. moonchild1153: and it is not so long that things won't fall through the cracks lady_slinky: Yes a lot can happen in 3 months but does it really? ladycgc: the chair could change twice a year lady_slinky: I am willing to start with every 2 months as there is much to accomplish in the begining however I would like to come back to it at a later date. ladycgc: everyone takes a turn at chairing the meetings goddess32068: two months is fine with me ladycgc: I agree, Slinky.. we'll play it by ear, and start with two months vampire_resource_exchange: Two months is good ladycgc: so .. while we are at this point... lets make a date for the next meeting, lol goddess32068: 6 month chair rotation ladycgc: yes.. we'll choose a new chair every three meetings Tannaidhe: this group has to be an evolving one to survive... I think anything and everything, except the 'no politics/decrees' rule should be up for debate/discussion whenever a rep feels it should be addressed/ ladycgc: to some degree I agree, Tanna.. I think we need to try to stick to SOME structure though... Merticus X: Yes, if something comes up before the 2 months that is of importance I think the chair should be able to call a meeting. ladycgc: like basic meeting structure lady_slinky: something like what? Merticus X: Never know what could happen.. lol ladycgc: that would be acceptable, Mert.. if there were something earthshaking, like... gentics find the answers to vampyrism, lol ladycgc: or something equally astounding lady_slinky: sure Tannaidhe: I didn't mean it would be in constant flux... but, say, a rep feels something should be *added* to the meeting structure, I think they should have the right to bring it up ladycgc: it could happen.. who knows.. an emergency that affects us all... goddess32068: well we have the e-group to discuss on in between meetings ladycgc: I think we have that built into the meeting structure by having discussion time after the reps present their updates ladycgc: thats a good point too Vampy Tannaidhe: ::nods:: ladycgc: *Behavioural expectations for meetings? Merticus X: Yes, and it's not like we can't talk to each other in msg at anytime also. ladycgc: I think we covered it but lets be clear goddess32068: but i suggest setting eemail at least to daily digest Tannaidhe: One thing to address here.... ladycgc: no... I dont' do daily digest ladycgc: I have over 60 groups Tannaidhe: Will it be a free-for-all, or will it be 'raise your hand to speak'? goddess32068: i do individual myself lady_slinky: No fighting Merticus X: I can't either... too many groups here. goddess32068: lol vampire_resource_exchange: no name calling... I am sick of being on groups and mes vampire_resource_exchange: message boards that go strait to name calling I believe we are all above that ladycgc: no name calling.. in fact I honestly think we should keep the meeting itself as proffessional as possible lady_slinky: exactly ladycgc: there is some sense to hiding behind a businesslike facade ladycgc: it keeps the info giving impersonal ladycgc: we can always fall back on "its science not politics" lady_slinky: well not really cause its not science ladycgc: in reality the meetings SHOULD be businesslike. ladycgc: shhhh slinky... if we hide behind science there isnt' room for politics, lol! lady_slinky: lol ladycgc: and if possible the meetings should also be polite and as impersonal as possible.. there is always room for opinions and debate AFTER the meetings for anyone intersted in doing that ladycgc: but to preserve peace I suggest a businesslike approach ladycgc: not cold, but polite lady_slinky: Well if the meetings are for information exchange there shouldn't be reason for debate ladycgc: what do we do if someone doesn't hold to the rules of conduct? goddess32068: i must go guys --i have to be up early and its 11 here lady_slinky: joe says we are having a dance on thursday susie says jeff wrote a paper its in the files lady_slinky: goodnight vampire_resource_exchange: nite ladycgc: i"ll post it for you Mary, and we've covered most of the stuff anyway goddess32068: have a good evening all ladycgc: **hugs goddess32068: ty cg goddess32068: hugs all lady_slinky: Place them on veiw only lady_slinky: ? goddess32068 has left the conference. ladycgc: its a possibility... if they are continuously disruptive we can ask thier group for another rep? lady_slinky: true ladycgc: vote them off the island? Merticus X: That will work if they aren't the primary elder/patriarch of the group. lady_slinky: that would then be a desision ladycgc: I guess some things we'll have to deal with as they come up, lol Tannaidhe: I would say a 'three strikes you're out' sort of attitude lady_slinky: well we can like adults simply not respond to it and firmly but politly insist the meeting stick to the agenda ladycgc: I'd like to hold another setup meeting.. anyone interested? ladycgc: slinky i think THAT would be optimal,but can we DO it! lady_slinky: I think there is much set up left to do. ladycgc: I agree Tannaidhe: I'll come if I can vampire_resource_exchange: sure I'm game Merticus X: Fine by me lady_slinky: No I find that in the history of boards no one has. ladycgc: everyone willing to meet again.. and maybe bring a friend if you know anyone interested? lady_slinky: I think we should do setup disscussion on list lady_slinky: this way there is far less wait time and far more imput. ladycgc: I"m open in three weeks or a month for another meeting... I can TRY and squeeze one in two weeks form now... ladycgc: I did promise Neal I'd try and slow down a bit, lol.. as most of you know I've been ill ladycgc: It hink we can continue setup on the list, yes ladycgc: but I'd still like to meet on it again soon and see where we are at? lady_slinky: I am busy till feburary ladycgc: anyone for meeting____ **Looks at calendar... lady_slinky: If you set up a meeting I might be able to squeeze it in though. Merticus X: I'm busy all Fri/Sat's ladycgc: Feb 9? lady_slinky: Sounds good atm for me. ladycgc: I dont' do weekends either.. thats Neals time with me vampire_resource_exchange: This is a tad off topic but, I will be phasing out my yahoo group soon, but I am a member of a group for all kin, would I still be able to stay a part of the Council on the cou lady_slinky: what day of the week is that? vampire_resource_exchange: the 9th works for me ladycgc: of course.. I allowed some space for researchers who represent self interstes ladycgc: interests, even vampire_resource_exchange: wonderful!! ladycgc: I know several good researchers not attached to ANY group or community lady_slinky: We can always tag you research monkey and then you have to stay ladycgc: LOL.. right.. make her secretary! vampire_resource_exchange: sounds good to me.... I have my fingers into everyhtin lol Merticus X: The research that is being conducted currently by various groups - where is this information to be posted? moonchild1153 has left the conference. ladycgc: We'll upload it to files on the egroup ladycgc: we can ask it be presented or uploaded as text files or something simple like that Merticus X: Ok I'll write something up in the coming week or two. ladycgc: thank you!@ ladycgc: VRE.... I'll make you and slinky and vampy mods on teh egroup for now so we can start that work ladycgc: if you two agree? ladycgc: we can make the files and such and get things in order lady_slinky: You will want them uploaded zipped Merticus X: I don't object. lady_slinky: otherwise you will end up running out of room fast ladycgc: no... just uploaded to the proper files on the egroup site vampire_resource_exchange: sure, I will say though that like I said earlyer I have a little one to take care of so I don't know how involved I will be able to be ladycgc: we'll play that by ear too ladycgc: **smiles... Ok.. same time on the 9th and I'll see you all on the egroup to go from here? Agreed? vampire_resource_exchange: Agreed Merticus X: *nods* lady_slinky: aagreed Tannaidhe: ::nods:: ladycgc: i"ll upload this log to the egroup and announce the date for the next meeting on the group lady_slinky: k vampire_resource_exchange: sounds like a plan ladycgc: perfect! nice work for one evening! ladycgc: thank you ALL for helping out! ladycgc: I'm really excited about this project! vampire_resource_exchange: no prob House AVA: Take care House AVA has left the conference. vampire_resource_exchange: your not the only one, I am too vampire_resource_exchange: have a good nite |
Tuesday 14 October 2014
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